Firmware 3.10 -- video problems?

[billb]

Just updated my CECHA01 PS3 to Firmware 3.15 and am posting from YDL 6.2. No problems so far, but I didn't have the video problems some had with 3.10.

[John Doe]

I can confirm that for the CECHC04 (European 60GB) as well, I just updated to 3.15 and tested a few video-modes, everything working fine.

[Tobe]

I can confirm that for the CECHC04 (European 60GB) as well, I just updated to 3.15 and tested a few video-modes, everything working fine.

I hope that the ones having problems with firmware 3.10 could confirm that too. Until then I will stay away from any update...

[Electromancer808]

Well, I had video problems with 3.10. I have just installed 3.15 and the video problem is still there. Thanks for all your help fellas, looks like I will be forced to delete my Linux partition since Sony does not care and will not fix this problem.

[ppietro]

Well, I had video problems with 3.10. I have just installed 3.15 and the video problem is still there. Thanks for all your help fellas, looks like I will be forced to delete my Linux partition since Sony does not care and will not fix this problem.

It isn't a matter of Sony not caring. It's a matter that not everyone is experiencing the problem, so Sony can't find it to fix it.

I have yet to see it, myself. I'm not doubting that you see it - but if you can't consistently reproduce the issue, it can't be fixed. That's software testing & bugfixing 101.

Rather than delete your Linux partition, it would be much more useful to contact Sony with the make and model of your PS3 & HDTV and report the issue. Then - keep pestering them for a fix. You're not the only person seeing this, but reports are very scattered right now. Accurate data is the only way this is going to get fixed.

Cheers,
Paul

[Tobe]

Of course Paul, you're right. But what scares me is that SONY might not be much interested in fixing seldom bugs on some "exotic" functionality they have abandoned long before (PS2 compatibility) or shortly (Linux). And when you imagine that these bugs only happen on specific hardware (some TV sets), it gets even worse...

The first thing I was aware when getting the information of the lost support for Linux on the new PS3 was that I have to be extremely careful with firmware updates in the future. But that this thing could happen so soon (just the first update after introducing the PS3 Slim) wasn't even in my imagination!

Now I hope you guys and girls keep your Linux partitions a bit longer so they really got a chance to fix this. And remember: We all have paid for a console with promised compatibility for PS2 and Linux! So essentially they have to fix this!!!

(In my case YDL is still running fine, but they have cut my right for online gaming. But if I update I might loose the only computer I got at the moment...)

[ppietro]

Of course Paul, you're right. But what scares me is that SONY might not be much interested in fixing seldom bugs on some "exotic" functionality they have abandoned long before (PS2 compatibility) or shortly (Linux). And when you imagine that these bugs only happen on specific hardware (some TV sets), it gets even worse...

I have seen no evidence of Sony not wanting to fix bugs. They generally respond to issues in a timely manner - although not necessarily as fast as we'd hope. They may not want to add new features - but they don't seem to want to intentionally break existing functionality.

The first thing I was aware when getting the information of the lost support for Linux on the new PS3 was that I have to be extremely careful with firmware updates in the future. But that this thing could happen so soon (just the first update after introducing the PS3 Slim) wasn't even in my imagination!

Sony has stated that they are comitted to continuing support for Linux on PS3:
http://lists.ozlabs.org/pipermail/cbe-o ... 06965.html

I have no reason to doubt them at this time.

Now I hope you guys and girls keep your Linux partitions a bit longer so they really got a chance to fix this. And remember: We all have paid for a console with promised compatibility for PS2 and Linux! So essentially they have to fix this!!!

For all we know, this might not even be a bug. It could be that Sony actually fixed an HDMI issue, and that these TVs don't implement the protocol correctly. It works great on my Sony PS3/Sony Bravia combination - and my Acer monitor as well. Has anyone affected by this issue tried their PS3 on another HDMI monitor? That might provide some very useful data.

Heck - it might even be an nVidia issue. Perhaps Sony finally "turned on" an nVidia RSX chipset feature - and their chip has an error. With today's level of complexity, there's many things that can go wrong.

Chances are it's probably a standard PS3 bug. Remember - 3.15 is not a bug fix update - it's a minor update to add support for a couple of new features that didn't make 3.10. The real fix for this issue - once they identify the issue - will probably be in 3.20+

Believe me - I understand your frustrations and distrust of Sony. I'm not always enamored of them either - especially in regards to decisions they've been making with the PS3 lately.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see how Sony handles this.

Cheers,
Paul

[billb]

I know there's also a reported video problem from the GameOS, but I wonder if the problem we're experiencing on the OtherOS side is related to this:

http://analogbit.com/node/23

The symptoms sound similar, at least.

[RobertoHN]

Hi!!!

I just want to report that I've installed the new PS3 firmware 3.15 and everything is fine, nothing about the video issues that some people had with 3.10. I never had firmware 3.10 I moved from 3.0 to 3.15.

I have a LCD Sharp Aquos 52", I'm gonna try to test it in an older LCD TV just to see if it also work fine, I've read that maybe that video issue depends on the TV and not the new firmware indeed.

Regards.

[CronoCloud]

The bug is still there for me in 3.15 No change in how it shows up.

Ron Rogers Jr. (CronoCloud)

[ppietro]

The bug is still there for me in 3.15 No change in how it shows up.

Ron Rogers Jr. (CronoCloud)

CronoCloud,

Do you have easy access to another HDMI monitor that you could try this PS3 on? Possibly a newer one that implements a later revision of the HDMI spec? It's a big ask, I know, but I'd be curious to see if this is strictly a PS3 issue - or a PS3/HDTV issue.

Cheers,
Paul

[CronoCloud]

CronoCloud,

Do you have easy access to another HDMI monitor that you could try this PS3 on? Possibly a newer one that implements a later revision of the HDMI spec? It's a big ask, I know, but I'd be curious to see if this is strictly a PS3 issue - or a PS3/HDTV issue.

Cheers,
Paul

No I don't, wish I did, for the same reason, to check out if the problem is limited to certain monitors. The problem only affects PS2 games and OtherOS, everything else (including PS1 games upscaled to 480p) is fine.

Ron Rogers Jr. (CronoCloud)

[eapleitez]

Hey cronocloud,
i just wanted to let you know that I have the exact same model PS3 that you have. I am on 3.15 with a fresh install of 6.2. No video issues here. Hope that helps you narrow down your problem.

[billb]

i just wanted to let you know that I have the exact same model PS3 that you have. I am on 3.15 with a fresh install of 6.2. No video issues here. Hope that helps you narrow down your problem.

Just want to confirm you're using HDMI and not component video since I believe the problem only shows up when using HDMI...

[ileventh]

Same problem after upgrade to FW 3.15.

System: PS3 60GB [CECHA01] (upgraded to 5400RPM 500GB), FW 3.15, YDL 6.2

Posted a message to Sony support. Hope they fix it soon! I'm very pissed off, was nervous about upgrading...turns out I should have gone with my intuition!