Changing to 720p lost HDMI audio

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Changing to 720p lost HDMI audio

Postby CoBrA2168 » 07 Apr 2010, 21:17

billb wrote:The guide for changing video modes after installing (you don't need to reinstall just to change video modes):

viewtopic.php?t=3524

I have a question relating to switching video modes - I installed with 1080p and everything works great, just everything is super super small.

So i changed to 720p using the method above - but I lost audio. I get absolutely no audio output from the PS3. I have an A/V Receiver, and it doesn't even detect audio out whatsoever. I'm using HDMI by the way.

I've asked this before, never got a clear answer as to why I lose audio when I switch video modes. If anyone could help that would be great.
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Re: Changing to 720p lost HDMI audio

Postby ppietro » 07 Apr 2010, 22:37

CoBrA2168 wrote:I have a question relating to switching video modes - I installed with 1080p and everything works great, just everything is super super small.

So i changed to 720p using the method above - but I lost audio. I get absolutely no audio output from the PS3. I have an A/V Receiver, and it doesn't even detect audio out whatsoever. I'm using HDMI by the way.

I've asked this before, never got a clear answer as to why I lose audio when I switch video modes. If anyone could help that would be great.


I see you asked that deep in the thread here:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6992&p=35453#p35453

This is why we suggest starting a new topic for questions, instead of piggybacking on older topics. People tend to not notice newer questions deep in a thread if other questions have been answered. I've gone ahead and split this off as a new topic for you. Hopefully, someone will have an idea for you.

BTW - I have a Sony Bravia, and an Acer HDMI computer monitor, and sound works fine in all resolutions on them, so I have no idea why it's failing for you. :(

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Re: Changing to 720p lost HDMI audio

Postby CoBrA2168 » 08 Apr 2010, 00:51

Yeah, I was thinking about starting another topic, but I had already made one before, and it never really got answered.

I'll probably just reinstall with 720p and see if that fixes my loss in audio.

And should I reiterate that changing to anything other than 1080p (what I originally installed on) loses audio. I even tried 480i, still nothing.
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Re: Changing to 720p lost HDMI audio

Postby ppietro » 08 Apr 2010, 01:27

CoBrA2168 wrote:Yeah, I was thinking about starting another topic, but I had already made one before, and it never really got answered.

I'll probably just reinstall with 720p and see if that fixes my loss in audio.

And should I reiterate that changing to anything other than 1080p (what I originally installed on) loses audio. I even tried 480i, still nothing.


Maybe it's something about your /etc/yaboot.conf? Could you post your edited and non edited version here?

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Re: Changing to 720p lost HDMI audio

Postby CoBrA2168 » 08 Apr 2010, 02:14

ppietro wrote:
CoBrA2168 wrote:Yeah, I was thinking about starting another topic, but I had already made one before, and it never really got answered.

I'll probably just reinstall with 720p and see if that fixes my loss in audio.

And should I reiterate that changing to anything other than 1080p (what I originally installed on) loses audio. I even tried 480i, still nothing.


Maybe it's something about your /etc/yaboot.conf? Could you post your edited and non edited version here?

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Ouch - might as well close this thread. :/ Just found out my brother updated that PS3 (it's at home, I'm at school now) to official 3.21 - OtherOS is gone :(

So I guess unless we swap hard drives, getting to that partition isn't looking like a possibility anymore anyway. :(

I'll probably just start over on my PS3 here at school (still on 3.15 :)).

I guess close this thread, I'll open it up again if I experience the same issues on my new install.

Thanks for the help though.
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Re: Changing to 720p lost HDMI audio

Postby ppietro » 08 Apr 2010, 02:36

CoBrA2168 wrote:Ouch - might as well close this thread. :/ Just found out my brother updated that PS3 (it's at home, I'm at school now) to official 3.21 - OtherOS is gone :(

So I guess unless we swap hard drives, getting to that partition isn't looking like a possibility anymore anyway. :(


Actually - swapping hard drives won't help you either. PS3's encrypt their drives to their own internal key - even the Linux partition.

It's my understanding that your partition is just... gone. :(

Unless you patch the firmware back, or Sony decides to re-introduce OtherOS, you won't be able to access it again. Sorry.

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Re: Changing to 720p lost HDMI audio

Postby CoBrA2168 » 08 Apr 2010, 03:54

ppietro wrote:
CoBrA2168 wrote:Ouch - might as well close this thread. :/ Just found out my brother updated that PS3 (it's at home, I'm at school now) to official 3.21 - OtherOS is gone :(

So I guess unless we swap hard drives, getting to that partition isn't looking like a possibility anymore anyway. :(


Actually - swapping hard drives won't help you either. PS3's encrypt their drives to their own internal key - even the Linux partition.

It's my understanding that your partition is just... gone. :(

Unless you patch the firmware back, or Sony decides to re-introduce OtherOS, you won't be able to access it again. Sorry.

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Oh, that's great to hear. Really had nothing important on it, mainly was just to "mess around" with Linux (my very first Linux). Now I'm very familiar with Ubuntu and Solaris machines. I use both for a class at school. Test tomorrow on regular expressions, among other things! Anyways, digression...

I didn't even do much on that partition - the most notable thing was installing VLC media player, which with the right repositories isn't really that hard.
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Re: Changing to 720p lost HDMI audio

Postby ppietro » 08 Apr 2010, 06:32

CoBrA2168 wrote:Oh, that's great to hear. Really had nothing important on it, mainly was just to "mess around" with Linux (my very first Linux). Now I'm very familiar with Ubuntu and Solaris machines. I use both for a class at school. Test tomorrow on regular expressions, among other things! Anyways, digression...

I didn't even do much on that partition - the most notable thing was installing VLC media player, which with the right repositories isn't really that hard.


Sorry - I should have been clearer. When I said your partition was gone - what I meant was - your ability to access the partition is gone. It's still there - but unaccessible. You'll have to backup your drive, repartition/reformat it, and restore to recover the missing 10 gig.

I wrote a very detailed description of the procedure here:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=7266&start=45#p37627

Oddly enough - someone on the cbe-oss-dev list claims you can read the Linux sectors from a PC:

http://lists.ozlabs.org/pipermail/cbe-o ... 07263.html

What this post means is that the Linux partition is more like a phantom drive.

To explain - for IBM PCs, there is a section of the disc reserved for partition tables. Say, for the sake of this explanation, it's sector 1. (Which it actually is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record)

On a PS3, that sector is not PC style, so a PC can't read it. There is no PC partition table at offset 446. Whatever is there is Sony proprietary - or encrypted - or both.

However - according to this post, if you format for Linux, the last sectors of the hard disc are striped like a drive. So - if you copy those end sectors, using the dd command, to a new disc starting at sector 1 - you have a bootable Linux disc. You apparently don't have to do this from PS3 Linux either - regular Linux can offset and dd to a new drive.

That's extremely facinating to me - I'd always heard the PS3 Linux sectors were encrypted along with the drive. This might explain why the PS3 always had such bad OtherOS partitioning options - if it's this brute force of a method, it might not really be manipulating the PS3's internal partitioning very intelligently.

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