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possible to install YDL via external hdd?

PostPosted: 30 Mar 2010, 00:27
by CRacerX125
I managed to get ahold of a broken ps3 for free. The only thing that is broken on it is the disc drive. Everything else works great. Is it possible to put YDL on an external HDD, and have kboot install it off of there? Thanks!

Re: possible to install YDL via external hdd?

PostPosted: 30 Mar 2010, 00:58
by billb
Fedora 7 PPC (and most likely later versions) will boot from a USB HDD after installation with no modifications. I haven't had the same luck with YDL, though it is reportedly possible. It's more than a simple install to USB drive, though.

Re: possible to install YDL via external hdd?

PostPosted: 30 Mar 2010, 01:07
by ppietro
CRacerX125 wrote:I managed to get ahold of a broken ps3 for free. The only thing that is broken on it is the disc drive. Everything else works great. Is it possible to put YDL on an external HDD, and have kboot install it off of there? Thanks!


Not easily no.

Instead, I would suggest buying a 5400 RPM SATA 2.5 inch Laptop drive and putting it in your PS3.

The PS3 is designed to use stock SATA laptop drives - you don't need a special drive or anything.

As an example, go here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... 5400%20RPM

any of these drives will be fine.

Cheers,
Paul

Re: possible to install YDL via external hdd?

PostPosted: 30 Mar 2010, 01:13
by CRacerX125
ppietro wrote:
CRacerX125 wrote:I managed to get ahold of a broken ps3 for free. The only thing that is broken on it is the disc drive. Everything else works great. Is it possible to put YDL on an external HDD, and have kboot install it off of there? Thanks!


Not easily no.

Instead, I would suggest buying a 5400 RPM SATA 2.5 inch Laptop drive and putting it in your PS3.

The PS3 is designed to use stock SATA laptop drives - you don't need a special drive or anything.

As an example, go here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... 5400%20RPM

any of these drives will be fine.

Cheers,
Paul

Well, I don't want to install YDL onto my external HDD. I was hoping on putting the YDL iso onto my external HDD, then telling kboot to install it from my external hdd to the PS3's internal hdd.

So, basically I'm wondering if I can tell kboot to look inside my external HDD for the iso rather than the DVD ROM?

Re: possible to install YDL via external hdd?

PostPosted: 30 Mar 2010, 01:15
by billb
Re-reading the original post, the question was if he can install FROM an external USB hard drive -- oops. :oops: Presumably the blu-ray drive is what's broken. Didn't someone post a procedure for that a while back?

EDIT: yeah what he said :lol:

EDIT2: I think this is the topic I'm thinking of:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6989

Re: possible to install YDL via external hdd?

PostPosted: 30 Mar 2010, 01:33
by CRacerX125
billb wrote:Re-reading the original post, the question was if he can install FROM an external USB hard drive -- oops. :oops: Presumably the blu-ray drive is what's broken. Didn't someone post a procedure for that a while back?

EDIT: yeah what he said :lol:

EDIT2: I think this is the topic I'm thinking of:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6989

Nice! Thanks :)

I'm reformatting my ps3 and stuff right now. Reading through that topic, I'm unfamiliar with an HTTP install (where you tell the installer to go to a specific address). Does anyone know anything about that?

Re: possible to install YDL via external hdd?

PostPosted: 30 Mar 2010, 02:27
by ppietro
CRacerX125 wrote:I'm reformatting my ps3 and stuff right now. Reading through that topic, I'm unfamiliar with an HTTP install (where you tell the installer to go to a specific address). Does anyone know anything about that?


Sure. Basically, the installer points at a Linux "archive" and puts that on your computer. The archive can be on a CD-ROM, FTP server, or a web (HTTP) server.

If you go to the directory:
http://ydl.oregonstate.edu/releases/yellowdog-6.2/os/

you'll see the structure:

Code: Select all
LICENSE                                            26-Jun-2009 02:48  9.4K 
 PS3/                                               01-Feb-2008 23:53    -   
 RELEASE-NOTES                                      25-Jun-2009 20:48  2.9K 
 RELEASE-NOTES.en                                   25-Jun-2009 20:48  2.9K 
 RPM-GPG-KEY                                        01-Feb-2008 23:59  1.6K 
 YellowDog/                                         27-Jun-2009 00:46    -   
 etc/                                               27-Jun-2009 00:58    -   
 eula.txt                                           26-Jun-2009 01:45  9.4K 
 images/                                            27-Jun-2009 00:59    -   
 ppc/                                               27-Jun-2009 00:58    -   
 repodata/     


That's YellowDog as a build directory. The installer knows where to look from this level of the website to find the files it needs.

(Well - assuming the original poster's link is correct. Offhand, that looks right to me.)

Cheers,
Paul

Re: possible to install YDL via external hdd?

PostPosted: 30 Mar 2010, 04:42
by CRacerX125
ppietro wrote:
CRacerX125 wrote:I'm reformatting my ps3 and stuff right now. Reading through that topic, I'm unfamiliar with an HTTP install (where you tell the installer to go to a specific address). Does anyone know anything about that?


Sure. Basically, the installer points at a Linux "archive" and puts that on your computer. The archive can be on a CD-ROM, FTP server, or a web (HTTP) server.

If you go to the directory:
http://ydl.oregonstate.edu/releases/yellowdog-6.2/os/

you'll see the structure:

Code: Select all
LICENSE                                            26-Jun-2009 02:48  9.4K 
 PS3/                                               01-Feb-2008 23:53    -   
 RELEASE-NOTES                                      25-Jun-2009 20:48  2.9K 
 RELEASE-NOTES.en                                   25-Jun-2009 20:48  2.9K 
 RPM-GPG-KEY                                        01-Feb-2008 23:59  1.6K 
 YellowDog/                                         27-Jun-2009 00:46    -   
 etc/                                               27-Jun-2009 00:58    -   
 eula.txt                                           26-Jun-2009 01:45  9.4K 
 images/                                            27-Jun-2009 00:59    -   
 ppc/                                               27-Jun-2009 00:58    -   
 repodata/     


That's YellowDog as a build directory. The installer knows where to look from this level of the website to find the files it needs.

(Well - assuming the original poster's link is correct. Offhand, that looks right to me.)

Cheers,
Paul

Very cool, makes sense . I just downloaded the newer version of petitboot (the one mentioned in the previous thread). I'm assuming in order to tell it to install via HTTP you have to hit the 'edit' button (which is assigned ins in petitboot). However, when I hit insert on my keyboard, nothing happens. Sorry to change the issue on you, but do you know what might be causing this / how to fix it?

Re: possible to install YDL via external hdd?

PostPosted: 30 Mar 2010, 05:20
by ppietro
CRacerX125 wrote:Very cool, makes sense :). I just downloaded the newer version of petitboot (the one mentioned in the previous thread). I'm assuming in order to tell it to install via HTTP you have to hit the 'edit' button (which is assigned ins in petitboot). However, when I hit insert on my keyboard, nothing happens. Sorry to change the issue on you, but do you know what might be causing this / how to fix it?


Re-read the instructions again. Basically, you use the petitboot to boot off the USB drive and start the install. Once you get the install rolling, then you point the installer at the http server.

Cheers,
Paul

Re: possible to install YDL via external hdd?

PostPosted: 30 Mar 2010, 05:26
by CRacerX125
EDIT: just figured it out! I'm watching it go through the setup now. I'm holding my breathe :X