Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

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Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby philhanson » 02 Jul 2009, 05:55

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Re: Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby philhanson » 02 Jul 2009, 08:37

Actually gonna mess with 6.1 tonight, will the upgrade be easy?
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Re: Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby philhanson » 02 Jul 2009, 08:51

Ok I got it installed, Enlightenment looks horrid. :(

But more important my wireless is not working.

I'm on this page:

http://us.fixstars.com/support/solution ... nfig.shtml

At this step:

Click on the “Devices” tab
Click on "Deactivate"
Click “New”
Select “Wireless Connection”
Click “Forward”
Select the “Sony PS3 Ethernet Device (eth0)”

Sony PS3 Ethernet is not listed, but I did see it before deleting it in the previous step.

And I'm stuck.
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Re: Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby ppietro » 02 Jul 2009, 09:10

philhanson wrote:Ok I got it installed, Enlightenment looks horrid. :(

But more important my wireless is not working.


Go here:

Wireless tips and tricks for YDL 6.1

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Re: Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby philhanson » 02 Jul 2009, 09:58

Ok here are my issues:

First I am slightly familiar with Linux, barely.

Was the tut assuming root? Cause when I got to this:

In the terminal window, type gedit ifcfg-eth0

I was unable to save the file. I tried sudo gedit ifcfg-eth0 which didn't work, finally I tried su - , typed root pw then did the command. I was able to save it then.

I got through the entire tutorial one question, "Don't forget to add a 0x for Hex WEP keys".

Sorry I don't have any idea what this means? I have a long password but I'm unsure if I type it as is or add anything???

The wlan is inactive in the Network panel and I'm unable to activate it so, no wireless atm.
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Re: Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby ppietro » 02 Jul 2009, 20:58

philhanson wrote:Was the tut assuming root? Cause when I got to this:

In the terminal window, type gedit ifcfg-eth0

I was unable to save the file. I tried sudo gedit ifcfg-eth0 which didn't work, finally I tried su - , typed root pw then did the command. I was able to save it then.


Yeah - that's why I mention this:

ppietro wrote:9. Open a terminal window, and switch to root user with the su command.
10. In the terminal window, type cd /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts
11. In the terminal window, type gedit ifcfg-eth0


If you had followed step 9, you would already be root user by the time you got to step 11.

Unless you were opening new terminal windows for each step. I'll revise my procedure to clarify that. :D

philhanson wrote:I got through the entire tutorial one question, "Don't forget to add a 0x for Hex WEP keys".

Sorry I don't have any idea what this means? I have a long password but I'm unsure if I type it as is or add anything???


WEP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_Equivalent_Privacy

What this means to you is that you have to know what encryption your wireless access point is using. Then, if your wireless access point is using WEP, and you have a Hex password, you must add a 0x in front of it.

You might find these general WiFi tips and tricks useful. I included a link to them at the beginning of my post:
WiFi Tips and Tricks

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Re: Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby philhanson » 03 Jul 2009, 00:44

You know I prob just glazed over the su step, hehe.

I'll try the rest tonight thanks!
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Re: Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby philhanson » 03 Jul 2009, 08:54

Well here we go.

Getting:

Cannot activate wlan0

/sbin/ifup config lwan0 not found

Usage ifup <device name>

My Network name has a space, Hanson Home, tried it this way and without a space. My pw was a 5 digit word that got turned into a 20ish+ pw so I'm assuming it's in Hex, added the 0x. No worky.

Not sure whats wrong but the wlan0 won't activate.
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Re: Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby ppietro » 03 Jul 2009, 09:01

philhanson wrote:My pw was a 5 digit word .


That would be ASCII, not hex. A hex password would be 10 digits.

philhanson wrote:Cannot activate wlan0

/sbin/ifup config lwan0 not found


This would indicate a typo somewhere. Looks like you mistyped a wlan0 to lwan0 in one of those files.

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Re: Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby philhanson » 03 Jul 2009, 09:27

Ok I fixed that typo in ifcfg-eth0, changed ethernet to wireless change eth0 to wlan0, now I get the same error but with:

Cannot activate wlan0

/sbin/ifup config wlan0 not found
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Re: Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby philhanson » 03 Jul 2009, 09:53

Getting closer for some reason ifcfg-eth0 got a ~ added to the end, I coped it in same dir without ~ and got the finding IP address message, not working but maybe I can figure this out all the way.
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Re: Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby philhanson » 03 Jul 2009, 10:16

Argh this is killing me.

I did the patch thing from the other thread, rebooted and ifcfg-eth0 was gone, deleted it all, re-added everything, then getting a mode error. Then unable to find IP address. Getting set frequency, set bitrate errors. I'm not really sure where to troubleshoot at this point.

Edit: I did set my WEP to Open System, still nothing. My WEP auth is 128 bit.
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Re: Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby ppietro » 03 Jul 2009, 11:43

philhanson wrote:Argh this is killing me.

I did the patch thing from the other thread, rebooted and ifcfg-eth0 was gone, deleted it all, re-added everything, then getting a mode error. Then unable to find IP address. Getting set frequency, set bitrate errors. I'm not really sure where to troubleshoot at this point.

Edit: I did set my WEP to Open System, still nothing. My WEP auth is 128 bit.


Don't worry about the set frequency & bitrate errors. Everyone gets those - they don't affect your network. The unable to find IP address means your encryption is set incorrectly in Linux.

The patch you installed is for wicd, which I've detailed as Scenario 3. Scenario 2 in my YDL 6.1 WiFi post uses Network Configuration manager. They are mutually exclusive. In other words, you have to pick scenario 2 or scenario 3, but not both.

Back to Scenario 2. Can you use 64 bit WEP auth to test, then add 128 bit later? Also - you asked this:

philhanson wrote:Hey my pw was a 5 digit word that was turned into a like 24 digit pw for my WEP, what would that be, sorry, it was done automatically by my WAP. On every other device I've just typed it in. So it's very long with alot of numbers and letters.


Normally, the way this works is when you configure your access point, you pick WEP, then HEX or ASCII, then 64 or 128 bit.

ASCII is always half of HEX. It takes two HEX digits to make one ASCII character.

So - table 1:
64 bit HEX = 10 digits
64 bit ASCII = 5 characters
128 bit HEX = 26 digits
128 bit ASCII = 13 characters

I'm not really sure what your access point is doing, unless it's trying to convert HEX to ASCII or something. That's certainly not the way my D-Link wireless access point works. Per table 1, when I set this wireless access point to the settings on the left, I enter exactly what's on the right for my password/key.

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Re: Newcomer - Thinking of trying when 6.2 is available

Postby philhanson » 04 Jul 2009, 06:37

Well strangely enough I changed WEP to 64 bits, added 0x to the pw, went to dinner came back, booted up and as of now, I'm posting on the PS3 in YDL. I'm I bit miffed though I still don't know the ACTUAL reason I was having problems but I'll deal with it, hopefully it works the next time it boots, hehe.
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