Linschn wrote:Hello !
I have just installed a YDL 6.1 on my iBook G4. I previously had a Debian testing, but it began spinning out of control, and I as I need my computer to work on everyday I hadn't the courage to downgrade it to a Debian stable, or to reinstall it from scratch.
I am quite amazed by YDL so far : installed in less than 3 hours, trackpad OK on first boot, E17 as the environment...
Still some things still puzzle me :
-Why 2 different software for installing and upgrading software ?
-Why are the package downloads so looooooooong ? It took more time for the first update than for the installation...
-Where is TeXlive ? teTeX is 4 years old, it doesn't have Tikz and I badly need it.
-How are the software in the deposit choosen ? I wasn't able to see : teTeX and OOo 2.4 for example on one hand, and E17 and firefox 3 on the other hand : I would have think that everything would be cutting edge, or everything outdated but stable, but I see both at the same time.
Are there some deposit I am not aware of ? Which may contain TexLive and OOo 3, or shall I install it by hand ?
If I have to install it by hand, this would be a serious drawback to my Linux Hapiness... After my Debian testing failure, I want to keep everything as clean as possible and installing a software by hand is defenitively not the way to do it.
Kind regards.
Ah - the intro to YDL post. Here we go!
YDL is based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux (via the CentOS free recompile), not Fedora as you might think. What this means is that YDL runs about three versions back from the current Fedora software libraries. This is done to improve stability at the expense of new features. A quick guide to this is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hat_en ... tributionsI explain why this is here:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3684&p=16307#p16307As for the lack of some software packages, Fedora/Red Hat has strict limitations on the software their repos can contain. If the repositories have any software that is copyrighted, or prevent commercial use, they won't carry it. I explain some of that here:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2715&p=10004#p10004You need to add extra repos to gain access to copyrighted and non-open source programs. Normally, I'd tell you to add RPMFusion, and be done - but remember - YDL (RHEL) isn't current. RPM Fusion is for the latest Fedora releases only. So - we have to go old school with Livna, Dribble and Fedora Extras repositories.
In addition, these repos will try to update key libraries that YDL needs, so you have to add yum-protectbase as well.
Set up your system according to this post:
Howto: Install software (the easy way) YDL 6 I know this is for PS3 - but these instructions are not platform specific, and the repos are built using generic PowerPC binaries. I use the same repos, with a slightly different syntax, for my x86 CentOS box, as well as my PS3, and they work great. It also includes instructions for setting up protectbase.
Unfortunately, none of this is documented on Red Hat websites, per se. It's just kind of Red Hat "tribal knowledge". Those of us used to YDL, RHEL, CentOS, Fedora, etc., just kind of automatically add these extra repositories.
Finally - coming from a Debian background, YDL
will take some getting used to. I have the same problem using Ubuntu or Debian, since I first learned Linux years ago with Red Hat 6.2, and tend to prefer systems based on it.
Hang in there, and feel free to ask questions in these forums.
Cheers,
Paul
P.S. By the way - the GUI program manager and update manager both call the same underlying program. Instead of Debian's apt-get, we use something called YUM. The package manager (pirut) and update program (pup) both use YUM to do their work.