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YDL 5 on G3, Yum Repo Help

Postby tedg » 30 Nov 2010, 07:15

Browsing help here and elsewhere I get contradictory information.

The situation is that I am a serious beginner who has succeeded in installing YDL 5 on my Powerbook G3 (Pismo). It runs well, but I would like to update and possibly upgrade.

Yum does not work, and it seems that I need to create or download the right file pointing to repositories.

Can you help?

My goal is to get the most modern Kword (or Kwrite), Kmail and some browser. That is all I want.

Thanks in advance, Ted
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Re: YDL 5 on G3, Yum Repo Help

Postby ppietro » 04 Dec 2010, 01:27

tedg wrote:Browsing help here and elsewhere I get contradictory information.

The situation is that I am a serious beginner who has succeeded in installing YDL 5 on my Powerbook G3 (Pismo). It runs well, but I would like to update and possibly upgrade.

Yum does not work, and it seems that I need to create or download the right file pointing to repositories.

Can you help?

My goal is to get the most modern Kword (or Kwrite), Kmail and some browser. That is all I want.

Thanks in advance, Ted


Before we go too deep into troubleshooting, let's start here:
viewtopic.php?t=2316

What happens if you try this?

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Re: YDL 5 on G3, Yum Repo Help

Postby pwall » 04 Dec 2010, 10:58

Hi Ted

tedg wrote:Yum does not work, and it seems that I need to create or download the right file pointing to repositories.


It looks like the links to the default base, extras and updates repo's are broken. The mirrors list seems to point to ftp.yellowdoglinux.com which itself points to ftp.oregonstate.edu. The problem is Oregon has repos only for YDL 6.1 and 6.2.

If you edit your repos as follows it hopefully should get you up and running. The repo's are located in /etc/yum.repos.d/ (Instructions for editing and adding additional repo's are in the link on Paul's reply):

yellowdog-base.repo
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[base]
name=Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 Base
baseurl=http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/yellowdog/yum/5.0/base/
#mirrorlist=http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/resources/yd50-base-mlist
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY



yellowdog-extras.repo
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[extras]
name=Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 Extras
baseurl=http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/yellowdog/yum/5.0/extras/
#mirrorlist=http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/resources/yd50-extras-mlist
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY



yellowdog-updates.repo
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[updates]
name=Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 Updates
baseurl=http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/yellowdog/yum/5.0/updates/
#mirrorlist=http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/resources/yd50-updates-mlist
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY


You also have the option to add on the other repos for Dribble, Livna and Fedora Extras as per the link in Paul's reply.

Hope that sorts it out.


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Re: YDL 5 on G3, Yum Repo Help

Postby ppietro » 04 Dec 2010, 21:04

pwall wrote:Hi Ted

tedg wrote:Yum does not work, and it seems that I need to create or download the right file pointing to repositories.


It looks like the links to the default base, extras and updates repo's are broken. The mirrors list seems to point to ftp.yellowdoglinux.com which itself points to ftp.oregonstate.edu. The problem is Oregon has repos only for YDL 6.1 and 6.2.

If you edit your repos as follows it hopefully should get you up and running. The repo's are located in /etc/yum.repos.d/ (Instructions for editing and adding additional repo's are in the link on Paul's reply):



That's good to know. We probably need to update that post, I'm guessing. Thanks for taking the time to troubleshoot that, Pat - I had to rush my daughter to see Santa last night, and was only able to provide the initial link. :D

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Re: YDL 5 on G3, Yum Repo Help

Postby tedg » 07 Dec 2010, 00:41

Many thanks.

Here is what I did and the results. I edited the three yellowdog repo files, changing the ftp.yellowdog.com address to ftp.heanet.ie. and moving the #

This allowed pup to access the servers, but surprisingly there were no updates whatever!

Adding the three additional repo files broke the software update and add/remove software programs, producing:

“Unable to retrieve update information. Unable to retrieve software information. This could be caused by not having a network connection available.“

I was not patient enough to suss out which one, though I did try variants that added the “enabled=1“ line to the two files without it that Paul provides.

So. I now have a workable pup, but it seems not an updatable system. My first priority is to see about getting sleep to work, before adding a text editor.

I guess my questions now are:

— Is it likely that there are NO updates or bugfixes whatever?

— Is it feasible to try to upgrade to YDL 6 using yum? I cannot do the obvious: installing 6 over 5 because the optical disk reader is shot. This machine does have firewire though, if that helps.

proc /cat/version yields kernel 2.6.22-0.ydl.rc4 ... (Yellow Dog 4.1.1-1) ... 2007

Thanks for the help so far. I am encouraged.

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Re: YDL 5 on G3, Yum Repo Help

Postby ppietro » 07 Dec 2010, 01:27

tedg wrote:Is it feasible to try to upgrade to YDL 6 using yum? I cannot do the obvious: installing 6 over 5 because the optical disk reader is shot. This machine does have firewire though, if that helps.


That might be very hard to do. YDL 5 is based on Fedora Core, YDL 6 is based on Red Hat Enterprise (via CentOS recompile). They're different enough where trying to upgrade (as opposed to re-installing) might break a lot of things.

Going from YDL 6.0 to 6.1 to 6.2 definitely works, though. (That's not too helpful for your situation, I'm afraid.)

You might be able to get what you need if you get the third party repos working, however.

I did some quick link checking, and I think it's the Livna repo that's giving you trouble. You might try this:

livna-stable.repo
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[livna-stable]
name=Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (stable)
baseurl=ftp://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/rpm.livna.org/fedora/5/ppc/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0


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Re: YDL 5 on G3, Yum Repo Help

Postby tedg » 07 Dec 2010, 02:22

Many thanks.

Yes, the livna repo info needed to be modified as you suggested.

I guess the heanet.ie repositories were not very active.

I have now installed a good text editor (it seems). Next is fixing/getting power management and installing dropbox. I’ll move to another part of the forum for those. Thank you very much.
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Re: YDL 5 on G3, Yum Repo Help

Postby ppietro » 07 Dec 2010, 09:39

tedg wrote:I guess the heanet.ie repositories were not very active.


It's not so much that. It's more that they just provide the content of the DVD and - if necessary - a couple of updates. This way, you can install and uninstall base programs without hunting down the discs.

Luckily, we can take advantage of Fedora Extras (cool open source programs not included with the distribution), Livna (cool, non-open source/copyrighted programs not included with the distribution) and Dribble (cool programs) to find a much larger library of software. It's just kind of "tribal knowledge" that you have to add repos like these with Fedora/RHEL derived Linuxes.

Cheers,
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P.S. In YDL 6.2, the YellowDog Extras repository does contain quite a bit more. They now include the EPEL - Extras Packages for Enterprise Linux, which kind of replaces Fedora Extras. This leads to some YUM confusion - but that's a different thread. :D
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Re: YDL 5 on G3, Yum Repo Help

Postby pwall » 07 Dec 2010, 14:04

ppietro wrote:That's good to know. We probably need to update that post, I'm guessing. Thanks for taking the time to troubleshoot that, Pat - I had to rush my daughter to see Santa last night, and was only able to provide the initial link. :D

You're welcome Paul :-) I'll be bringing my own daughters to see Santa this weekend :D

tedg wrote:— Is it likely that there are NO updates or bugfixes whatever?
— Is it feasible to try to upgrade to YDL 6 using yum? I cannot do the obvious: installing 6 over 5 because the optical disk reader is shot. This machine does have firewire though, if that helps.


Hi Ted

There should definitely be updates, I would be amazed if there were none available. As root can you do a
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# yum clean all

and then
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# yum update

and see what happens.

Unfortunately YDL 5 is that last YDL to support the G3 processor - YDL 6 supports G4 and up.


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Re: YDL 5 on G3, Yum Repo Help

Postby tedg » 07 Dec 2010, 15:40

Tons of changes in the status of the repos. But no updates.

Thanks guys.
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Re: YDL 5 on G3, Yum Repo Help

Postby pwall » 08 Dec 2010, 20:52

tedg wrote:Tons of changes in the status of the repos. But no updates.

Hi Ted

I'm just burning the YDL 5.02 image - I'll install it onto my Mac Mini and see how I get on with the updates. I'll post back in a day or so and let you know what I come up with.

All the best


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Re: YDL 5 on G3, Yum Repo Help

Postby pwall » 13 Dec 2010, 22:34

Hi Ted

Well I installed YDL 5.02 and I did run in a slight problem alright with updates on the Heanet mirror. On a standard 5.02 install yum update reports there are about 35 updates available but fails on util-linux package. if you run:
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yum update --exclude=util-linux

it will bypass the error and update the other packages. Not exactly an ideal solution.

I then changed mirrors to ftp.caliu.cat and tried again. This time yum update successfully installed all updated packages.

So the best thing to do is change all the mirrors as follows:
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[updates]
name=Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 Updates
baseurl=http://ftp.caliu.cat/pub/distribucions/yellowdog/yum/5.0/updates/
#mirrorlist=http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/resources/yd50-updates-mlist
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY

[extras]
name=Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 Extras
baseurl=http://ftp.caliu.cat/pub/distribucions/yellowdog/yum/5.0/extras/
#mirrorlist=http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/resources/yd50-extras-mlist
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY

[base]
name=Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 Base
baseurl=http://ftp.caliu.cat/pub/distribucions/yellowdog/yum/5.0/base/
#mirrorlist=http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/resources/yd50-base-mlist
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY


The do:
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yum clean all

followed by:
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yum update


This is my yum.log after I run yum update:
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Dec 12 19:50:37 Updated: glib2.ppc 2.12.9-1
Dec 12 19:50:38 Updated: libpng.ppc 2:1.2.10-10
Dec 12 19:50:40 Updated: krb5-libs.ppc 1.5-22
Dec 12 19:50:40 Updated: cairo.ppc 1.2.6-1
Dec 12 19:50:45 Updated: glib2-devel.ppc 2.12.9-1
Dec 12 19:50:46 Updated: openldap.ppc 2.3.30-3
Dec 12 19:50:47 Updated: pango.ppc 1.14.10-1
Dec 12 19:50:48 Updated: libvorbis.ppc 1:1.1.2-2
Dec 12 19:50:49 Updated: libgdiplus.ppc 1.1.17-1
Dec 12 19:50:54 Updated: mono-core.ppc 1.1.17.1-5
Dec 12 19:50:56 Updated: mono-data.ppc 1.1.17.1-5
Dec 12 19:50:57 Updated: libpng-devel.ppc 2:1.2.10-10
Dec 12 19:50:58 Updated: cairo-devel.ppc 1.2.6-1
Dec 12 19:51:01 Updated: util-linux.ppc 2.13-0.50.0
Dec 12 19:51:02 Installed: libutempter.ppc 1.1.4-3
Dec 12 19:51:17 Updated: libgnome.ppc 2.14.1-1.ydl.1
Dec 12 19:51:20 Updated: mono-web.ppc 1.1.17.1-5
Dec 12 19:51:22 Updated: qt.ppc 1:3.3.8-2
Dec 12 19:51:23 Installed: SDL.ppc 1.2.9-5.2.1
Dec 12 19:51:24 Updated: flac.ppc 1.1.2-28
Dec 12 19:51:25 Updated: db4.ppc 4.3.29-9
Dec 12 19:51:27 Updated: krb5-workstation.ppc 1.5-22
Dec 12 19:51:29 Updated: libvorbis-devel.ppc 1:1.1.2-2
Dec 12 19:51:30 Updated: libgnome-devel.ppc 2.14.1-1.ydl.1
Dec 12 19:51:31 Updated: cpio.ppc 2.6-22
Dec 12 19:51:31 Updated: mono-data-sqlite.ppc 1.1.17.1-5
Dec 12 19:51:32 Updated: openldap-clients.ppc 2.3.30-3
Dec 12 19:51:33 Updated: fetchmail.ppc 6.3.6-3
Dec 12 19:51:33 Installed: caching-nameserver.ppc 30:9.3.3-0.2.rc2
Dec 12 19:51:35 Updated: tar.ppc 2:1.15.1-27
Dec 12 19:51:35 Updated: agg.ppc 2.5-1
Dec 12 19:51:38 Updated: openldap-devel.ppc 2.3.30-3
Dec 12 19:51:40 Updated: krb5-devel.ppc 1.5-22
Dec 12 19:51:41 Updated: gd.ppc 2.0.35-1.ydl.1
Dec 12 19:51:42 Updated: elinks.ppc 0.11.1-5.1
Dec 12 19:51:44 Updated: pango-devel.ppc 1.14.10-1
Dec 12 19:51:51 Updated: db4-devel.ppc 4.3.29-9
Dec 12 19:51:54 Updated: initscripts.ppc 8.31.6-1.ydl.7
Dec 12 19:51:54 Erased: utempter
Dec 12 19:52:08 Erased: bind-config


Hope that sorts it out for you, Ted. If not drop a message back and I'll look into it further.



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Re: YDL 5 on G3, Yum Repo Help

Postby tedg » 15 Dec 2010, 01:56

Pat, that did it!

Thanks, I am a happy user now, except for the lack of support for sleep.

You were a big help.
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